Kansas has been holding hearings about setting Autonomous Vehicle regulations. The situation provides an interesting, publicly accessible view into what's happening across the US. It also provides an exercise in transparency compared to the process used at about the same time in Pennsylvania.
Note: see update at end for pointers to more comprehensive treatment created after this blog post was written.
A simplified summary of the Kansas situation:
- Walmart is using its lobbying weight to expand its "middle mile" automated delivery trials from Arkansas to also include Kansas. The bill is being considered at their request. But they confess the technology is beyond them.
- Gatik is the Walmart partner doing the heavy lifting here. They tell a plausible story about care and diligence, phased incremental approach, etc., although without mentioning conformance to industry standards. However, regardless of the story they tell, the bill would permit other companies to also operate in the state, so what is in the bill matters beyond Gatik's statements.
- The proposed bill is short (2 pages) and is aimed at narrow permission to do things that look like depot-to-store un-crewed logistics runs on Kansas public roads.
- The bill omits a number of important things pointed out by various parties, so the question is how short can it be while still hitting the important points. It's clear it will be revised with various parties hammering out a revision, and we'll hear more about it later. But for now, the discussion itself is illuminating.
Kansas AV regulation case study materials:
- The bill itself: http://kslegislature.com/li/b2021_22/measures/sb379/
- Written testimony link
- First day testimony (proponents -- 51 minutes): https://youtu.be/VH-zSQDp3sk
- 00:50: Briefing on bill
- 03:35: Walmart
- 14:50: Gatik government relations presentation
- 24:20: Gatik technical presentation
- 38:20: Q&A
- Note: video corruption at approximately 48:30-49:10 is in original stream
- Second day testimony (neutral/opponents -- 50 minutes): https://youtu.be/zdSwKPDicZQ
(Times are from start of hearing. Add 1 minute for YouTube stream time) - 00:20: Briefing on bill
- 01:45: Kansas DOT
- 08:40: Kansas Police organizations
- 19:50: Teamsters/organized labor
- 26:35: League of Kansas Municipalities
- 30:05: Ford Motor Company
- 33:35: Michael DeKort
- 40:55: Alliance for Automotive Innovation
- 47:15: General Q&A
- Third day testimony (opponents -- 32 minutes): https://youtu.be/jHrkH0oSB5A
(Times are from start of hearing. Add 3 minutes for YouTube stream time) - 00:40: Autonomous Vehicle Industry Association
- 07:10: AUVSI
- 10:30: Technet
- 12:45: Trial Lawyers / American Association of Justice
- 17:40: Trial Lawyers/ Hutton & Hutton (voice only in original stream)
- 24:40: Carnegie Mellon University
- 30:15: General Q&A
- A new bill was introduced in March 2022: SB 546
- Hearing video from March 10, 2022: https://youtu.be/YuAQnZs_Dj8
- 2nd hearing video from March 14, 2022: https://youtu.be/ozOtg4gCajg
- Kansas house hearing on SB 546, March 29, 2022
- Be sure to listen to the exchange at about 2:02:00 about whether time pressure should be a reason to move the bill forward still in need of work.
- Finally a Kansas bill was signed by the governor: KS SB 313
- Warm up by reading a news article on the bill, such as: https://www.repairerdrivennews.com/2022/02/14/kansas-bill-would-bring-in-av-tech-for-middle-mile-goods-transportation/
- All students should watch the proponent first day testimony and read the bill.
- Assign each student to watch one speaker for the second/third day videos and summarize the position of that person in two to five points.
- Re-enact the hearing with each student just giving the three points to boil it down to essentials.
- Who was the speaker advocating for (general public, special interest group, government function, etc.)?
- What do you think that person's testimony contributed to the conversation about the bill within the committee that was different than other speakers?
- Did you find that person credible and effective at advocating for their position? Why?
- Assign five groups within the class, and assign each group one of the five regulatory topic areas listed in this blog post.
- Each group comments on strengths and weaknesses of the bill according to the five topic areas.
- Which of the elements within the assigned group of regulatory issues is addressed by the Walmart/Gatik testimony?
- Pick just one weakness of the bill in your group's assigned area and propose a sentence to add to the bill to fix that one point.
- Discussion:
- Do you think the bill's scope is just right, too narrow, too broad, or should not be passed at all?
- Do you think Gatik's deployment will be acceptably safe? Why?
- Do you think deploying this technology on Kansas roads provides a reasonable tradeoff between economic benefit and jobs to the region vs. risk to other road users and potential issues?
- How strong a regulatory role should Kansas DOT be given?
- If you could only change one thing about the bill, what would you change?
- Look for your speaker/topic in the follow-up bill SB 546. Did your speaker's position on your topic change? Why do you think that happened?
- Compare and contrast the Kansas process with the process used for Pennsylvania SB 965 on Autonomous vehicles a month earlier. For that bill no public hearings were held by the PA Senate Transportation Committee before sending the bill to the full PA Senate:
- Press conference introducing PA SB 965: https://youtu.be/ewULUNDBZO4
- PA SB 965 bill and a proposed amendment: https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/billInfo/bill_history.cfm?syear=2021&body=S&type=B&bn=965
- PA Senate Transportation Committee Voting meeting video: https://transportation.pasenategop.com/transportation-012622/
- Pittsburgh Post-Gazette story on concerns: https://www.post-gazette.com/news/transportation/2022/01/26/Pennsylvania-Senate-Transportation-Committee-self-driving-vehicles-emergency-driver-Senate-Bill-965/stories/202201260121
- Podcast on issues raised by PA SB 965: https://ojoyoshidareport.com/podcast-can-av-bill-do-right-by-people/
- In an interesting twist, the PA Senate adopted much of the House language and did a complete revision of PA SB 965 here and passed it to go to the PA Senate (Printer's No. 1839): https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/billInfo/billInfo.cfm?sYear=2021&sInd=0&body=S&type=B&bn=0965
- Compare and contrast the process used by the Pennsylvania House for a companion bill
- PA HB 2398 Bill drafts: https://legiscan.com/PA/bill/HB2398/2021
- PA HB 2398 Bill public hearings 3/17/2022: https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pagopvideo/179878804.mp4
- Bill passed by PA House on 6/15/2022: https://legiscan.com/PA/text/HB2398/id/2596376/Pennsylvania-2021-HB2398-Amended.pdf
- A version of the House Bill was passed as Act 130 of 2022: https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/li/uconsCheck.cfm?yr=2022&sessInd=0&act=130
- Governor letter acknowledging safety was not ensured by bill: https://www.governor.pa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/20221103-2398.pdf
- Oklahoma Senate Bill 1541, which makes the automated driving system a licensed driver in control of the vehicle rather than a nature person: http://oklegislature.gov/cf_pdf/2021-22%20INT/sb/SB1541%20int.pdf
- This bill is active at a time in which Canoo is setting up shop in Tulsa OK, but from the hearing it sounds more likely that this is a play by Walmart/Gatik to expand operations to stretch from Texas through Oklahoma and into Kansas.
- The OK senate passed the bill without apparent amendment http://www.oklegislature.gov/BillInfo.aspx?Bill=SB1541&Session=2200
- Washington SB 5828 https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=5828&Year=2021
- In general, unwinds recommendations of AV work group that ended up as current law. (Worth reading the analysis document posted there.)
- Washington HB 1731 https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?billnumber=1731&year=2021
Washington HB 2100 https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=2100&Year=2021 - HB 1731 Enhances requirements for reporting and accountability for AV testing. (Worth reading the analysis document posted there.)
- HB 2100 reduces reporting requirements and increases secrecy of data -- supported by AV industry.
- Hearing video (HB1731 & HB2100): https://tvw.org/video/house-transportation-committee-2022021030/?eventID=2022021030
- New York S8468 https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/S8468
- Note that municipal preemption would over-ride NYC DOT requirement for testers to conform to SAE J3018 for testing safety.
- West Virginia HB 4787 (passed as a law
- Michigan law: https://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(pkadam2ahg4uxjem1px2kvk1))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=2021-SB-0706
- Washington SB 5594 AV bill 2023:
- Bill: https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=5594&Year=2023&Initiative=False
- WA Senate Transportation Hearing Video: https://tvw.org/video/senate-transportation-2023021157/?eventID=2023021157 (8:20-15:15 and 27:20-1:00:00)
- Autonomous Vehicle Regulation and Trust: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3969214
- Highly Automated Vehicle Testing & Discrimination Against the Poor: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4016783
- Video: Trust and Governance for Autonomous Vehicle Deployment 2022 https://youtu.be/hZQyFc9ETCE
- US House E&C committee, 7/26/2023:
- Washington state, 1/30/2024:
- SB 5594: AVIA bill
- SB5872: requires human test driver
- Testimony: https://app.leg.wa.gov/committeeschedules/#/Senate/438/01-30-2024/01-30-2024/Schedule///Bill/
- South Dakota 2024:
- House Bill 1095: AVIA bill: https://sdlegislature.gov/Session/Bill/24662
- My Kansas testimony is at the very end of the last day of the first set of senate hearings. It needs to be clearly stated that my testimony is in the specific context of this bill and the situation on the ground there. If it were a broader situation I'd have a lot more to say per the five topic list link.
- You will notice some people, especially in earlier hearings, wearing masks due to the Covid19 pandemic. (This is obvious at the time I create this page, but in a few years it might not be as obvious what is going on with this.)
Final OK bill (enrolled): http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2021-22%20ENR/SB/SB1541%20ENR.PDFQuoted starting at bottom of page 7:1. The automated driving system is considered the driver or operator, for the purpose of assessing compliance with applicable traffic or motor vehicle laws, and shall be deemed to satisfy electronically all physical acts required by a driver or operator of the vehicle; and2. The automated driving system is considered to be licensed to operate the vehicle.
Update, August 2024:
At this point some larger case studies have been performed that provide more updated information. However, I'm leaving the above in place in large part because it provides pointers to hearings and drafts that show how the sausage gets made.
- Multistate Coordination and Harmonization for AV Legislation, National Academy Press, NHCRP-LRD-91, June 2024: https://nap.nationalacademies.org/read/27867/chapter/1
- Hubbard & Starger, The Collision Course Between Outdated State Laws and Automated Vehicles, SSRN, draft from August 2024: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4916418
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